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Microsoft Abandons Development of Windows Home Server Drive Extender

Here at WGS, readers have been equally critical:

For some reason Vail no longer creates a personal folder inside of a “users” shared folder when you add a user. I can add a share but now it takes up another drive letter. If I do this for several family members now I have a case of drive letter clutter. I don’t want to see 10 network drives every time I open my computer on a client.

Vail offers nothing new over WHS1 PP3. Therefore I don’t see anybody actually being able to justify paying for the upgrade. I bet a majority of those who do install Vail, obtain it illegally.

Its very nice under the hood, but lacks additional functionality. I’ll likely upgrade if I see the return of user folders.

First lame number, 12%. That’s overhead for duplication but whatever, extra data protection could be worth it. Second lame number, 1GB. Any file over 1GB will be ‘chunked’ across multiple drives regardless of duplication. This introduces the possibility of losing more than just a single drive’s worth of data if a single drive were to fail. Probability is irrelevant, ANY probability is unacceptable.

Clearly there were significant engineering issues with DE v2 that have led to a mounting volume of criticism from the Windows Home Server Community over the past eight months. But whilst every project has its challenges, the fact that Microsoft have made such a huge turnaround at this advanced stage of the project is a shock which calls to mind the dark days of Windows “Longhorn” development, subsequent project reset and the failure of the WinFS storage subsystem feature.

Perhaps Windows Home Server “Vail” is turning into Windows Home Server “Vista”?

Three years after the release of Windows Home Server v1, we’re still without a successor, and with such a huge product feature being ripped out of the code, I’m sure we won’t see Vail for some time yet. There are clearly huge questions around how Vail’s development has been managed, but bigger questions still concerning the quality of product Microsoft will ultimately release. Having been enthused with the initial plans Microsoft shared with MVPs for Vail a long time ago, the beta that was released some time later boils down to a broad re-interpretation of Windows Home Server v1.

Clearly, with Vail, Aurora, Breckenridge and SBS v7 being developed by the same group, resources were tight. That meant Vail was ultimately going to be a platform shift (to the underlying Windows Server 2008 R2 platform), with some necessary re-engineering and limited feature upgrades (in the form of partial Mac support, Media Streaming and improvements to Remote Web Access). With DE now stripped from the product and no significant feature enhancements to shout about, Microsoft now have a significant challenge in persuading WHS v1 owners to upgrade to Vail.

With regard to encouraging new consumers to adopt the platform, Microsoft have lost a huge competitive advantage compared to other, cheaper (and in some cases better-featured) NAS solutions. Back at WGS Forums, discussion continues amongst first generation Windows Home Server owners around the need to upgrade:

Personally I was really hoping Vail would have a bit more to it, like I said I am sure the Mac stuff will have many switching but I am at a loss why current WHS users would, moving system [data] off the [storage] pool certainly does not justify the expense – which is the only feature I can see on several boards many current users are even mildly excited about.

I still believe the home server could be Microsoft’s iPad, but I have some doubts whether Microsoft can mobilize and execute sufficiently.

Still undecided. I have yet to see a reason to upgrade and for the most part I have stopped keeping up with the development of Vail.

I think WHS V1 is well worth the $100. Nevertheless, I would not pay $100 for Vail, unless the new added features are a must have for me. This is especially true since I am happy with WHS V1. At this point the only new things in Vail that interest me are the new look of the website for remote access and the ability to back up the server OS. However, this is not enough to make me shell out another $100. If Vail fixes the whole demigrator.exe problem, then I will upgrade in a heart beat.

I have no plans on upgrading to Vail with what I have seen. Perhaps a year after release. I will have to buy all new hardware and then *hope* all my data is somehow migrated over. Beta or not I am not impressed with the feature set.

If Vail was out today or there was a release date I would probably go with it just for the sake of getting regular updates and who knows if MS will introduce a nice Power Pack or 2, but I cannot bet on that, so as it stands, V1 is looking to be the way to go at least for me. So my comments are not meant as a knock, more from disappointment.

Despite the gloss of today’s announcement, Microsoft will be severely embarrassed by the decision to drop Drive Extender so far into the development of Vail, Aurora and Breckenridge. With most of the major Windows Home Server features now ported into small business-focused SKUs, the question going forward is how serious are Microsoft about driving Windows Home Server adoption?

What effect will the removal of Drive Extender have on Vail’s reputation – with consumers, and the industry at large? Will hardware vendors be interested in shipping a niche next-generation product that has already alienated elements of its core user base? When Drive Extender goes, what, if anything replaces it?

The impact on Aurora and Breckenridge is less of a concern as OEMs have been shipping RAID-based solutions into the small business segment for many years. Home Server is different -  Microsoft themselves have admitted in the past that RAID is not a consumer technology, so how will data stored on Vail be protected? It’s time for Microsoft’s product planners to sharpen their pencils, fast.

If there is no solution, perhaps Microsoft should take a braver decision and cancel the Vail release altogether – get Aurora, Breckenridge and SBS7 shipped, then re-group the team to focus solely on Windows Home Server for a time to nail the leading-edge consumer storage solution that the category needs. If not, the danger is that Windows Home Server “Vista” moniker may stick.

Most significantly, here in 2010, what is Microsoft’s vision for Windows Home Server? The culling of Drive Extender rejects the original design principles around which Windows Home Server was created. No need for the user to worry about the details. No drive letters. Guidance on where to store stuff. Resilient to the failure of one or more hard drives. Compatible. Great performance. Secure. Must enable future innovation. A server that was simple to use for the average consumer. These were the principles that captured my imagination and inspired me to get off my backside, load up a copy of Windows Home Server and start We Got Served.

Make no mistake, Drive Extender was the beating heart of Windows Home Server, and without it, I’m really not sure what’s next.

Over to you – what are your thoughts on today’s announcement? If you’re a WHS v1 owner, will today’s announcement put you off upgrading? let us know in the comments.


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Terry Walsh is the founding editor and owner of We Got Served. Since February 2007, the site has provided detailed coverage and analysis of the emerging home server category, and has subsequently grown into a trusted outlet for digital home news and reviews.

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  • Christine

    I've been using WHS since it's initial beta and one of the key features was de. WHS v.1 "just works". It works for the home user who wants to tinker and the home user who just wants to back up their computer and have access to their files. I will not upgrade to Vail. Why would anyone purchase a product that has been stripped of one of it's key features? MS has really messed up a innovative piece of software.

  • Webb Browser

    I came really close to tears when I heard about the dropping of Drive Extender. I have been touting the product to all my clients for years. In fact, I have been replacing old RAID machines for years now. WHS is simply the best solution for the (very) small business, which is the vast majority of businesses in the country. WHS is wonderful because it is easy for my clients and does away with RAID cards which takes out a point of failure AND a heck of a lot of cost. Also, it reduces their maintenance cost because you can simply slap any old drive into the system whenever you want and there is no darn “volume” to rebuild.

    THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE! I’m freaking out for a good reason!
    What if Microsoft stops updating WHSv1?
    What if I have to go back and rebuild my clients with very expensive SBS software? How is this going to make me look?
    How are my clients going to afford that?

    For God sakes, put the DE V1 into VAIL and don’t destroy one of the best products you have ever come out with….don’t destroy the WHS community…don’t destroy your users, clients, and MCPs.

  • John D

    Wow, I'm not an MS fan, but I've been a WHS cheerleader. They are taking away everything I love about it – no drive letters, user folders, duplication, easy pooled storage. Dumb, dumb move.

  • Don E

    This is HUGE. I am new to WHS, having used it for only seven months, but I have already had my system drive fail, four months ago.

    I was immensley pleased and amazed when I replaced my system drive, reloaded to OS and found ALL MY DATA was still there. I did not realize this was due to Drive Extender. Now I understand it is, and it is the strength – heart as Terry said – of WHS. Why in the world would MS abandon DE, and us users?

  • TheBigOldDog

    Never underestimate Microsoft's ability to mess up a good thing.

  • Kemchuk

    Horrible decision. Not sure I understand what they thought WHS would be when they started and why the sudden change of heart and abondonment. They did take away one worry of mine, which was migrating 10Tb of data to Vail. Guess I'll just stick with WHS 1.0. Save me the time and money of upgrading and buying hard drives.

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  • Tom

    epic fail, no WHS v2 for me. GOing to move my WHS v1 to Unraid and be done with it, no virus worries so no worries on updates, software runs on a jump drive, very disapointed in MS.

  • Delano

    Just want to move from a NAS to start building a WHS based on trail version of Vail. And consider to buy a version of it on release. But I don't know if it's still a good plan, because my NAS already use raid settings and is very simple in use. For me it's important that Vail does NOT FAIL!
    So if this is such a BIG Change (Mistake?) to "all" users I don't know if using Microsofts WHS is a good Choise as a OS for my selfbuild server…..

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  • spelevinken

    It is all coming back – do You remember the VHS, VCR and Betamax – and the first place goes to ……….VHS (the system that had the worst quality).

    Feels the same this time – You got a well working system and then no more, the more consumerfriendly NAS wins. I don't know who's wrong or right but for me it's a big loss to lose the development of WHS. Is it R.I.P.??

  • Themisto

    "Make no mistake, Drive Extender was the beating heart of Windows Home Server, and without it, I’m really not sure what’s next."

    This sums up my point of view, too. :(

  • Mitchell Hennessy

    At this point, I was hoping to find a way to either migrate the WebFolders4WHS add-in or duplicate what it does to Vail's IIS; the integrated media streaming/transcoding aspects of Vail really appealed to me (especially with the fact that it leverages the server's existing security and encryption)….

    …but at this point, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to just try porting over Vail's web media streaming/transcoding to WHSv1 or to duplicate that on a WHSv1 built on a 64-bit version of Server 2K3.

  • Steve Bolton

    This is an awesomely stupid decision for MS. DE is the main sales feature for WHS, and even better you can recover the data if the main WHS drive fails by plugging it in to another system, something I have already HAD TO DO. Without this I would have lost a great deal of data.

    How can you talk about UPGRADING to Vail? It would be a DOWNGRADE.

    Basically MS are admitting they can't make DE work properly and never could. Their attempts to fix the existing problems in DE have ended it a humiliating failure.

    And the size of drives today is nothing to do with it at all.
    I currently have 2x1TB drive, 1x750GB and 1x250GB attached.

  • Steve Bolton

    I guess we look to the unix community now to provide a sensible replacement …

    • Phil

      That would be Amahi / Greyhole then…

      …Amahi looks pretty good – just not happy that it forces its own DHCP ranges on you but you can disable that and still use your router.

  • TheBigOldDog

    Never underestimate Microsoft's ability to screw up a good thing. Over that last 5-10 years it's the only thing you can consistently rely on from Microsoft.

    As an ardent Microsoft supporter dating back to the late 80s, I unfortunately see them now skiing down the wrong side of the mountain as quickly as they can. I no longer find much to praise them.

  • darwinite

    Yeah, 1TB+ drives are reasonably priced, but 15TB+ drives don't yet exist. Microsoft convinced me 3 years ago that raid is bad (and the Intel SS-4200e confirmed it) as I can't take my server offline for weeks at a time because it pitches a conniption fit and needs to rebuild itself, or worse yet, lose 15TB+ of data. I _love_ DE because it is robust, I can choose which files are important and are duplicated, and which are bulky but I could afford to lose if a drive fails, it runs my FTP, web, mail, georss, etc servers 24x7x365. I would like the media center enhancements offered in Vail, but not enough to have to rebuild and move 15TB+ of data off of DE and on to separate disks, I mean FFS who would? I've still got 8TB in a raid array on an Intel SS-4200e that I can't use for more than a week without having to spend 10 days "rebuilding" it. DE just works, and works well, and I will keep the old version of WHS on my server until a replacement server comes out with DE support.

  • blackhuey

    I have been saying for years that WHS is one of the best products Microsoft ever made, for two reasons: backups for dummies, and drive extender.
    I will not be upgrading to Vail without DE. I'll run WHS1 until support is discontinued, while looking for a viable replacement.

  • xavius

    Same here. I will run WHSv1 until support is discontinued while looking for a simple replacement. Probably something linux based since MS seems to be taking a poorly thought out stance on this one.

  • Dropbear

    Code name FAIL.

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    Nobody wants this!

  • Envirotech

    I will not upgrade from my WHS v1 I have seen what a bad drive in RAID 0 can do. That is not security. I will also be looking for a linux based solution if DE is removed. Vail = Vista Fail.

  • John

    This product is worthless without the DE technology.

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