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Add-in Review: Cloudberry Backup v1.7 for Windows Home Server

We continue our look at online backup services for Windows Home Server with Cloudberry Backup, a relatively new service (the first release was in November 2009) but one that has quickly gained popularity in the community. Initially powered by Amazon’s S3 storage service, Cloudberry has recently added a Windows Azure storage option to the service, allowing the user the choice of where their data is hosted.

Whilst focusing entirely on home server backup (as opposed to client and server backup or folder sync like KeepVault or HomeServerSync), Cloudberry Backup has a very strong feature set, including:

  • Full Windows Home Server Console Integration
  • Manual and Automatic Backup Scheduling
  • Backup Files Since Specified Date
  • Backup Encryption
  • Backup Compression
  • File versioning
  • Email notification
  • Smart Delete (Do not delete backups of files that have been deleted locally)

Like a number its competitors, Cloudberry Backup is tightly integrated into Windows Home Server courtesy of an add-in downloadable from their website. The service utilises a different pricing structure from other WHS backup services due to its links with Amazon S3, and ultimately that makes life a lot more confusing. Alongside a $29.99/£29.74 fee for the add-in (which guarantees a year of email support and application updates) you also have to pay fees to Amazon. I’ve stated before that I’m not a fan of Amazon S3’s pricing structure, which charges both for storage and for data transferred – this “pay as you play” model guarantees you never know how much you’re going to be charged on a monthly basis, and depending on your usage, you could be in for a nasty surprise. Amazon storage fees start at $.15/months per GB of data, whilst transfer fees start at $.10 per GB of data transferred. An online calculator is available (and is needed) to figure out your estimated costs, but it’s all a bit confusing. I’d much prefer to see Cloudberry offer a flat pricing structure which is easier to understand and allows direct comparison with their competitors – pricing confusion is a big barrier to purchase and would convince me to look elsewhere before I’d even checked out the service.

Installation

If you want to check out Cloudberry Backup before purchasing, a 15 day evaluation license is available for download. The add-in installs directly on your home server via the Windows Home Server Console, with its own tab to manage the service, plus an entry in the Settings menu for configuration.

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Once the add-in is installed, what follows is a laborious process to get the add-in working. You’ll first need to enter your Cloudberry license details (or request the trial license), which is easy enough, but that’s just the entree. You then need to select and register with a storage provider, with four choices – the aforementioned Amazon S3 (which is the only provider listed with an account registration link), Microsoft’s Azure Cloud service, Germany’s Dunkel storage and a fourth option, Walrus (the latter two services are unknown to me). Go with Amazon, and you’ll need to register a separate account on the Amazon Web Services site, handover your credit card details, set up a storage “bucket” (think of it as a chunk of storage space), and then find two separate keys which will need to be copied and pasted into the Cloudberry add-in, along with your account details.

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To be fair to Cloudberry Labs, this runaround is now wholly of their making – the same is true of any service that utilises Amazon S3, and I’ve been critical of other providers in the past (including HP, whose Amazon S3 powered backup service for the MediaSmart Server has now been pulled). Just bear in mind that you’re dealing with two separate service providers here, two accounts, and two payment structures – one fixed price for the add-in, and variable charges to a second provider for storage and file transfers. Simple it isn’t.

User Interface

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Cloudberry Backup offers one of the best looking user interfaces we’ve seen on Windows Home Server. The add-in controls integrate well within the Windows Home Server Console, and you can see a lot of work has gone into creating a professional, credible and friendly user experience, with colourful icons and graphics as well as clear links to various controls.

The Command bar offers wizards for backing up and restoring files and folders as well as an overview of your Backup Plan, folder view of your online storage plus a History log of your activity. The left hand pane provides useful information to get started with the service, with links to setup your Backup Plan (what you want backing up and when), the Restore wizard and a What’s New panel. Given Cloudberry have released numerous updates to their service over the last year with new features, this is worth keeping an eye on.

Backing Up Your Files

Creating your Backup Plan is aided by a wizard which guides you through the options. Two Backup modes are available with varying features. The Advanced mode is preferred, allowing filesizes of more than 5GB, the ability to resume uploads which have failed or are aborted, file encryption as well as the ability to store multiple file versions. Note that you will only be able to access your files stored in Advanced Mode with Cloudberry Backup. If you want to manage files with multiple Amazon S3 clients, then it’s the bread and butter Simple Mode you’ll need, which offers none of those  features.

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  • pete

    What kills this, for me at least, is $30 should include lifetime updates, not one year.

  • Jeremy

    Just to cast my vote, I am afraid that I have to disagree with both the post author and the commenters so far.

    The S3 pricing model couldn't be clearer: you pay for exactly what you use and nothing more. The reduced redundancy option is nice for those who don't need the normal level of S3 redundancy and the relative redundancy levels are documented very well in both the S3 documentation and on the amazon web services blog posts about the feature, had the reviewer bothered to read them.

    The dependency on a third party online storage provider is, in my opinion, a positive and not a negative about the product. The very last thing I want from a cloud backup provider is to have my data stored off in some unknown location and without the ability to access it using other tools (as one can with S3) should the Cloudberry folks up and disappear one day or should their backup add-in just up and decide to stop backing things up one day and not tell you (as caused me to cancel my KeepVault subscription.)

    S3 is not perfect, that is certain, and the setup process for it is certainly more involved. That said, that setup process is, in my opinion, a small price to pay for the advantages that it offers.

    Whether you use S3 or not, as some of the other supported storage providers are certainly worth investigating, it is definitely worth considering where your data is stored and how else you may access it, not just the tool that puts it there.

  • Manny Carvalho

    I had just looked at this solution yesterday since I'm dissatisfied with the Asus Web Storage offering and totally agree with your review. A real nice looking backup client with an unfortunate flaw that relies on a third party storage provider. I was ready to give it a try until I hit that same exact roadblock. I gave up after trying to understand Amazon and had enough so that I didn't want to see what the others had to offer. Still, it wouldn't be so bad if it could use something like SkyDrive instead of a difficult to understand price structure like the S3 model. They almost had me and still might with a litlle change.

    Nice write up Terry and maybe this will get them to modify their strategy some.

  • pete

    For $30 you should get lifetime upgrades, not one year.
    That, and reliance on 3rd party online storage providers, makes this a 'nothankyou'.
    It's too bad, I really like the features and UI…

  • http://s3.cloudberrylab.com/ Andy

    Hey Guys,

    This is Andy, CloudBerry Lab. I'd like to tell you that Amazon S3 or Microsoft Azure are NOT 3rd party storage! They are most proven and secure and OPEN industry storage services! You can even access your data using other methods. Most of online backup storage use proprietary architecture and close protocols. We on the other hand use open and proven storage that belongs only to you. As an added benefit we never see your data.

    Also, in fact you do get lifetime updates. We don't charge anything extra.

    Thank you once again for your comments!

  • Manny Carvalho

    Hi Andy,

    The FAQ at the CloudBerrysite says: "You pay onetime fee of $29.99 (US) to CloudBerry Lab. This includes one year free updates and email support." http://www.cloudberrylab.com/default.aspx?page=ba

    How's that lifetime updates?

    We'll let the 3rd party – an entity other than the original vendor of the development platform – comment slip.

    How about connecting to something like SkyDrive? I'd purchase your add-in if that was a possiblity. It does look nice.

  • Bill

    Frankly, I don't the Amazon pricing structure that cumbersome to deal with and my costs have pretty much stayed the same. Once I did the initial upload we may have fluctuated anywhere from .25 cents to 1 dollar on different months and that's about it. For the ease of use, advanced features and integration it is more than worth it to me. Overall, I think it's a great product and was a welcome addition to my add-ins after HP had killed their original S3 backup product.

  • Paul

    My experience with Amazon S3 is very similar to Bill's above. I started using Jungledisk several years ago and I also installed it on my WHS when it was available (I don't believe they offer a WHS version any longer)

    Of course the pricing isn't a flat fee but that is the beauty of it. Unless you are backing up a ton of data you can expect to save money over other flat rate plans. I had once calculated the break-even point but can't recall the exact value now but i think it was several ten's of gb before S3 was more expensive than the popular ~$5 per month plans.

    Another benefit is that you can add as many containers on S3 as you want on the same account. Good for businesses. This also allows you to run many different services through your S3 account. For example, i have 3 computers (including the WHS) backing up to S3 using different versions if Jungledisk and could easily add Cloudberry without disturbing the other containers.

    Oh, and the guys at Cloudberry (nor Jungledisk) ever see my data. Nor does Amazon as the data is encrypted before it leaves my computer.

  • Craig

    Actually, we were an early adopter of this backup solution even with the involved process of setting-up both the Amazon S3 account and Cloudberry. In the end, it wasn't the Amazon costs (typically a few bucks a month) for backing up about 1.5GB each day but Cloudberry Labs updates that are causing us to seriously consdier another solution.

    With the last few versions we've noticed failed backups of larger files, issues with the programs database not reporting properly what it has backed-up and what actually exists on our Amazon S3 account and so on. Generally, our confidence in the product has been compromised quite a bit.

    I certainly recommended against a "set it and forget it" approach. I can consistenly replicate the problems we're having and while I'm all for product upgrades which they are focused on, the basic foundation of the program – that is, back-up and restore must function. It's too easy for one to fall into a "set it and forget it" approach ONLY to be let down when a critical file needing to be restored is either not backed-up, purged without the user knowledge or backed-up but the programs has forgotten it exists!!!

  • http://whs.cloudberrylab.com/ Andy

    Just wanted to add that the newer version of the add-on comes with Amazon S3 Multipart Upload that makes the upload process for large files up to 5TB much more reliable.