TwonkyMedia Server Add-In Walkthrough

Curiously, the web configuration pages are only accessible on the server itself. Trying to access from any other PC presents a bright red page with the uninspiring “Access is restricted to MediaServer configuration!”

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If you have purchased a copy of TwonkyMedia Server, this is where you will enter your licence key. Otherwise you will be on a limited evaluation period.

There are several other web configuration pages.

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With no shortage of setup and configuration options, what does it give you in reality? Initially that was difficult to tell.

Once up and running, one surprising feature (at least for me) was to be able to access my media through the browser from any computer.

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Clicking on the Spanner Configuration icon gives the same bright red Access Restricted page seen earlier.

A lot of the devices I had capable of playing streamed media were happy enough with WHS anyway and so anything I dropped onto the server was being presented and I couldn’t tell if Twonky was having any effect. The trick was to turn off Media Sharing on the server and change the default name of the Twonky service. All of a sudden it was clear what it was presenting.

It will take some time working through the Twonky options and testing with various media devices to determine whether Twonky provides significant value over the functions already in WHS or those provided by ‘free’ alternative options. Clearly, it integrates well with the Console and web interfaces providing access all the configuration options.

Whether it provides for better media serving is still to be determined. What was immediately clear was that there seems to be no adequate documentation on the WHS version regarding installation and configuration – it all has to be derived by comparing the screens with the normal PC installation notes. I actually fell on the web interface more by accident when looking for somewhere to enter the licence key.

Where there is an immediate benefit to some users (based on comments in the Forums) is that media serving is not limited to the WHS shared folders and there is the ability to include any folder accessible to the server, including external USB devices.

There purports to be strong iTunes support, but as I am not an iPod user, I cannot currently conclude whether this delivers. What I was looking for was the advertised ability to stream to a PSP (Playstation Portable). This is supported through the PSP’s ability to access RSS feeds and stream any associated media. It works well for commercial podcasts and so I was hoping to access my music collection at least. After many hours of trying and searching various forums, I have to conclude this is not something I can easily trigger into life.

Also there were no additional capabilities added for streaming media to the Xbox 360 over what is already there with WHS.

Finally, I dug through the forums here to gauge member experiences with Twonky. Once more I could find nothing to inspire me to conclude this is a worthwhile add-in. I was challenged by Jim Clark when I put forward the idea of a Walk-Through for Twonky to convince him he was missing something. I have to admit defeat. The documentation is poor (non-existent for WHS), the configuration ‘clunky’ with the combination of WHS Console and Web Browser (which apparently needs to be run on the Server itself) and lack of additional functionality. Also, for anyone adding Twonky to a server with large media libraries, or if you happen to upload a lot of media to your server very quickly, the Twonky library build saps processor power to the extent that your server can become unresponsive for hours or even days. I could not honestly contemplate a library rebuild on a ‘fully-loaded’ server.

I have to say I was full of hope for Twonky when I started this Walkhrough, having paid for the software ‘sight-unseen’ in the pre-Christmas offer, but I am now somewhat disappointed. I will keep it on my test server however and revisit every once in a while. Maybe if I try the Manager product as well then I may see some hidden benefits.


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About Dave Marchant

For me, Windows Home Server is very much a hobby as well as a very useful addition to the home computer network. I have been in the computer industry since the embryonic days of microprocessors having designed with some of the original 8-bit devices. In the past I have worked as UK Support Manager for a major PC manufacturer and I am currently IT Manager for a major Microsoft Gold Partner in the Business Products arena.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jim_Clark Jim_Clark

    Hi Dave,

    For music, I found Illustrate's Asset *far* superior. Hasn't Twonky ever heard of FLAC?? Illustrate has. Twonky has not. Twonky does not serve straight DVD rips. I guess the deal here is that you have to convert whatever you have to something that Twonky "feels" like serving.

    In case you have not guessed, I have been less than impressed with Twonky. It is a far cry from the "It just works" mode of thinking that DLNA and uPnP wants one to think it does.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/urmaster urmaster

      Hi Jim, in regards to flac there is no excuse from twonkey. I think straight dvd rips defeat the point of DLNA. DLNA assumes you are streaming media which should be seamless. With straight rips and ISO there is no way to garentee what is in the image is compatible with a given device. It could be a music CD, DVD, Blu-Ray or even a game 0_0. I don't think a DLNA media server should be expected to serve images up.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jim_Clark Jim_Clark

        I fail to understand how a straight rip is not compatible. Are you saying a straight DVD is *not* guaranteed to be combatible? I sort of figured that a DVD should be the definition of compability. Apparently Twonky does not.

        All DLNA means to me (please correct me if I am wrong) is that the DLNA SW has the appropriate codecs. If someone comes out with a new format, as you allude to, DLNA becomes a pipe dream.

        I honestly love the ideas brought forward by DLNA and UPnP. The implementation leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

        BTW, Twonky lists my kids' Xbox 360s and my Windows 7 machines as Enabled Media Receivers, whatever that is supposed to mean.

        My Linux network media player, which has Twonky on it also, is not listed. Quite strange, don't you think?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/urmaster urmaster

          Do you mean a rip of vob and ifo files? decrypted or something, in that case yes that should be the definition of a DVD but my PVConnect serves those up fine.

          An image no there is no guarantee it can contain anything.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jim_Clark Jim_Clark

            Yep, decrypted! :) Perhaps PVConnect works fine with those. My NMP works fine also. If you have a DLNA TV, it should be able to read and play that ripped DVD directly. If one cannot do so in WMP with Twonky, I wonder how well Twonky can serve a DLNA TV. Something that I cannot check out, unfortunately.

            I guess my point is that I read a lot of hype on Twonky and see little deliverance with something as simple as PC to PC.

            Being close to the "Show Me" state of Missourri, I have to say: Twonky. show me!

  • Darth.75

    I used a trial version of Twonky for a while since it is DLNA-compliant, where the default media streaming feature of WHS isn't (?). I have a DLNA compliant TV so this would potentially be a great feature. However, I found Twonky not able to show subtitles in ripped DVDs plus it could not play the DVD as a whole. Instead I had to skip to the next file. As a result I concluded Twonky not to be the media software I was looking for. Instead I bought a cheap Asrock ION 330, installed XBMC Live on it, and I'm loving it!!!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dave_Marchant Dave_Marchant

      I haven't entirely given up on Twonky yet, but the Walk Through does show my disappointment with the product. If I had a DNLA player to hand, I could have possibly been able to identify its purpose more strongly. The comments regarding DVD rips and subtitles are things I found also. Currently, I am finding it easier to make use of playback devices like Media Centre and Xbox 360 that work natively with WHS. It would have been nice to have the PSP as a streaming music player.
      I might give the PVConnect in the Iomega ix2-200 that I have in the garage a comparison.

  • Achy

    I'd love to see similar investigations into the other media server software (TVersity and PlayOn).

  • vdp

    appreciate the review on Twonky. I've been using it for about a year or 2, it had it's high's and lows. But I never gave up ;-) . In general I found it quite easy to get a "default" setup going. I did have some issue's to get it to load iTunes playlists. However once configured it will play along nicely. About the CPU load: I'm hosting a medium sized photo/music library (about 5k each), the server runs on a D510 Atom platform with 2Gb of memory. So far I have no complaints whatsoever on the CPU load, Db rebuilds obviously will generate some load but typycally only for a couple of mins…

    • Robert

      Hello vdp,

      I absolutely don't get Twonky to work with my itunes playlists. What settings did you chose to get it to work?
      (Acer H340 – Windows Home Server – Twonky 5 –
      Itunes database located on Server)

      Many thanks in advance for your help.
      Robert

  • GuustFlater

    It's a shame, that no custom browsing menus can be created any more with the 5.x versions, unless you're an XML expert and willing to go through some hacking cycles. For me the reason to stick with version 4.4.11 on my WHS (which accepts the 5.X license as well).

    Also I don't need yet another tab in my WHS for controlling it: I just go to http://server:9000/
    and then I can have exactly the same controls.

    The main reason for not switching to Illustrate/Asset, was because I had an issue with the initial version, and never tried hereafter. Agree with Jim, that Asset is in features superior to Twonky.

  • Luca

    No, I can't consider it a WHS software only because I can install it through the console and it has a couple of tabs.

    http://server:9000/ ?!? what is that rubbish?!

    WHS comes with its own web server and its own already configured security model.
    No need to install another web server running on another port.

    If it's a whs-software it should fully integrate in whs. full-stop.

    • GuustFlater

      4.4.11 is no WHS software, but runs perfectly on WHS. At least it is a more complete package, compared to the 5.x crap.

      It's being accessed through port 9000. It may not be most user friendly, but it fires up x times faster than the WHS console…

  • Eckokat

    Bottom Line, Twonky media server is pure rubbish! Even at the discounted holiday rate!

  • Kryspy

    PS3 media server is great product and it's free !!! Works on PS3 and Xbox360.

    Kryspy

  • Ryan

    I've given my 2 cents before on this product. The bottom line is it's not worth 2 cents.

  • Bill Clinton

    I installed the WHS 5.1 version from the site. It found my many many files. When I tried to play mp3's or video from my Direct TV HR 22 receiver everything had a X by it and refused to play. Its now uninstalled. I would have thought the default install would have at least worked on mp3 files without any tweaking….

  • Doug

    After the HP software, Twonky Media was the 2nd piece of garbage software that was removed from my new HP Media Server. It's just awful

  • Guest

    Anyone try TVersityhttp://tversity.com/ On WHS I can now play 90 of any audio or video including TV feeds with no conversion what so ever. The product is free for the base product and 40$ for the pro version, after using the base product for only an hour I and being so thrilled with not having to spend countless hours converting all my hidef MKV to H.264/AC3 purchased the pro version.
    Give it a shot, its awsome!
    MrEthiopian

  • Guest

    Anyone try TVersityhttp://tversity.com/ On WHS I can now play 90 of any audio or video including TV feeds with no conversion what so ever. The product is free for the base product and 40$ for the pro version, after using the base product for only an hour I and being so thrilled with not having to spend countless hours converting all my hidef MKV to H.264/AC3 purchased the pro version.
    Give it a shot, its awsome!
    MrEthiopian

  • http://tommyers.net/ User Guide

    Canon 300d customer textbook. I only bought a frequented Canon 300D, and it didn’t avail by a guidebook. Is There anywhere I could perhaps might download this? Or possibly are a web site with tips?

  • MykeWall

    Despite what anyone think, I've looked for quite awhile at an app that would enable DLNA devices to see my server running Windows Server 2003. It's a fairly old server and cannot support 2008 but it has my massive CD collection digitally stored and my photos. Having a Sony STR-DA5300ES, my intent was just to get a HTPC to add to my Home Theatre. However, my receiver was recalled and replaced with a STR-DA5600ES which is DLNA compliant. Initially new to the tech, I was overjoyed with the additional feathers this replacement had. I quickly realized that the receiver only saw WMP 12 on my laptop and not the server. After work today, I searched the forums again and came acrossed this program which mentioned Windows PC ans WHS, but not server 2003 or server 2008. So, I figured, what the hell and attempt to install it and it work. My fancy receiver can see the music, videos, and photos on the server. I had no problem with the install or step up. Total time was less than 30 minutes from download to install to operation. AWESOME! The only problem I have is that it I need to know how it displays cd covers. The WMP hidden files are present but the player won't make use of them or DL from internet.

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