Comments on: Windows Home Server “Vail” Leak – What’s Going On?

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By: Kewl

Kewl — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:49:21 +0000

Terry did a great job of describing why we are not seeing information about Vail on his site. He has signed a NDA in order to be a better serve you by having insight and access to MSFT folks. I find his comments to be balanced, smart and not self-serving. Those of you complaining just don't get it . Appreciat the position he is in and stop being cry babies! What a bunch of unappreciative whiners

By: Dik

Dik — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:15:49 +0000

Very disappointed! I come here for all my WHS news… and now I find out you're not allowed to talk about it. Great! I'll have to go elsewhere!

By: Hurmoth

Hurmoth — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:59:24 +0000

It doesn't matter where the content is posted, NDA stands for Non-Disclosure Agreement. A few years back I got to see Vista long before it was ever made public and I read the NDA and it specifically states in there that you are not even allowed to acknowledge the existence of the product. I cannot say what the penalty for disclosing Vail would have been, but the NDA for the Vista event specifically stated that I could be banned from any future Microsoft events, betas, etc. and/or be sued for an to be determined amount.

These companies want to keep to their intellectual property secret until it is released for a reason and they will go to great lengths to keep it from getting out to the public. Look at how secret Apple is and how willing they are to sue people who not only leak the information, but the people who obtain the leaked information.

By: nda victim

nda victim — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:53:10 +0000

You know, almost everyone in this industry has non disclosure agreements with Microsoft or other partners. So do I, and apparently so do you. However I have never seen anyone bragging about it with statements like "I know something you don't know" – and you do it frequently. It very annoying and tiresome.
If you cant tell anyone, please keep your mouth shut – if else we are we are happy to get a part of your knowledge.

By: Danb

Danb — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:49:36 +0000

Well I'm not sure which 'features' they are testing, because there are precious few in here, apart from slightly better management of the home page – the functionality of which barely touches what Whiist already offers… I'm not sure libraries integration is going to sell Vail to the masses.

By: autodrivel

autodrivel — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:00:17 +0000

As Jim pointed out above:
CTP4 is Alpha software to test functionality of certain features of a product
The active phrase there is "certain features"

It is quite likely that there are lots of other "features" of Vail in the same stage of development, they just aren't bolted into a CTP release.

By: Danb

Danb — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:47:06 +0000

My biggest concern is if this leak is genuine, then there is a LONG way to go before they have a product…

By: Jim_Clark

Jim_Clark — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:35:05 +0000

continued…

Do you think Microsoft (or any company) would be happy to see this happen? Do you think that this will speed up the development process? It may do quite the opposite, as there may be no more outside testing done until the person responsible is discovered.

In the end, this has nothing to with censorship. It has everything to do with theft of a company’s intellectual property. All WGS has done is remove links and pictures of this intellectual property. If you must see pixs, if you must d/l it, there are other ways to get there then thru WGS.

By: Jim_Clark

Jim_Clark — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:34:42 +0000

For all the censorship repression dudes:

CTP4 is Alpha software to test functionality of certain features of a product. It is not in any way shape or form a piece of software that is ready for use by anyone in the general public. Period

*Someone* illegally distributed this unfinished product on the web. This has nothing to do with NDAs. The consumer has no “right” to this software. The consumer has no “right” to see what this software looks like.

The distribution of CTP4 is the distribution of proprietary information that could easily be considered corporate espionage. I am sure the person responsible must be quite proud of himself for doing what he did. He has only done the consumer a disservice. Why?

By: Gerrit

Gerrit — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:32:56 +0000

Good for Terry in upholding some sort of ethics.