<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: WHS BDBB</title> <atom:link href="http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/</link> <description>The web&#039;s biggest home server and digital home community, with the latest news, reviews, hardware, software, add-ins and support forums.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:09:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Andy</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-57518</link> <dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:38:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-57518</guid> <description>This is the missing link to WHS, as if the server and or one or more of the computers backed up were damaged say in a fire then why bother backing up......Now all info can be backed up and safely stored on an external drive away from the home server! BRILLIANT many thanks </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the missing link to WHS, as if the server and or one or more of the computers backed up were damaged say in a fire then why bother backing up&#8230;&#8230;Now all info can be backed up and safely stored on an external drive away from the home server! BRILLIANT many thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Kuretz</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19906</link> <dc:creator>Alex Kuretz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:08:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19906</guid> <description>If you duplicate the WHS Backups, then your data should be safe in the event of a drive failure, even if it is the system disk that fails. Duplication means that the data is stored on more than one disk, so WHS should be able to recover that data during the Server Recovery process. WHS does not specifically seek out and delete WHS backups during the recovery process.Duplication of BDBB backups only applies if you are making BDBB backups to Server Storage. In that case, yes, your BDBB backup should be safe from disk failure.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you duplicate the WHS Backups, then your data should be safe in the event of a drive failure, even if it is the system disk that fails. Duplication means that the data is stored on more than one disk, so WHS should be able to recover that data during the Server Recovery process. WHS does not specifically seek out and delete WHS backups during the recovery process.</p><p>Duplication of BDBB backups only applies if you are making BDBB backups to Server Storage. In that case, yes, your BDBB backup should be safe from disk failure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gaymon Wright</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19905</link> <dc:creator>Gaymon Wright</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:32:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19905</guid> <description>Alex,Let me clarify.  If I &quot;enable duplication for whs backups&quot; then I gain protection against a data drive failing, Correct?But I am still going to lose all my backups if my system drive fails and I have to reinstall, correct?  In order to protect me from this, I would have to do a manual bdbb backup, correct?  I don&#039;t see any way of reloading the duplicated whs backup, only the bdbb backup...  It was my understanding a server install will delete any whs backups it finds.Then of of course duplicating the bdbb backup with &quot;enable duplication for bdbb backups&quot; would protect it against the failure of a data drive, correct?I&#039;d love to have a feature to automate the bdbb backups if all the above is correct.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p><p>Let me clarify.  If I &#8220;enable duplication for whs backups&#8221; then I gain protection against a data drive failing, Correct?</p><p>But I am still going to lose all my backups if my system drive fails and I have to reinstall, correct?  In order to protect me from this, I would have to do a manual bdbb backup, correct?  I don&#8217;t see any way of reloading the duplicated whs backup, only the bdbb backup&#8230;  It was my understanding a server install will delete any whs backups it finds.</p><p>Then of of course duplicating the bdbb backup with &#8220;enable duplication for bdbb backups&#8221; would protect it against the failure of a data drive, correct?</p><p>I&#8217;d love to have a feature to automate the bdbb backups if all the above is correct.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Kuretz</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19904</link> <dc:creator>Alex Kuretz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:25:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19904</guid> <description>Hi Paul,First, a point - VSS is disabled on OEM home servers so the previous poster cannot count on this functionality for previous versions. I recommend regular shared folder backups of critical shares, or online backup to protect your critical data from catastrophic incidents like fire/flood/theft.As to your backup questions:- There is discussion in both the BDBB Readme and the Wiki article on my site, including links to more discussion of the registry keys.- Look into the WHS SDK for how to query if backups are active. Or, don&#039;t run your script inside the maintenance window (Defined as the backup times in the server console)- There is a discussion in my forums on how to automate the backups of the client DB and server shares via robocopy or xcopy.If you have further questions I&#039;ll ask you to post in my forums, I&#039;m active there and only occasionally check here.Thanks, Alex</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p><p>First, a point &#8211; VSS is disabled on OEM home servers so the previous poster cannot count on this functionality for previous versions. I recommend regular shared folder backups of critical shares, or online backup to protect your critical data from catastrophic incidents like fire/flood/theft.</p><p>As to your backup questions:</p><p>- There is discussion in both the BDBB Readme and the Wiki article on my site, including links to more discussion of the registry keys.</p><p>- Look into the WHS SDK for how to query if backups are active. Or, don&#8217;t run your script inside the maintenance window (Defined as the backup times in the server console)</p><p>- There is a discussion in my forums on how to automate the backups of the client DB and server shares via robocopy or xcopy.</p><p>If you have further questions I&#8217;ll ask you to post in my forums, I&#8217;m active there and only occasionally check here.</p><p>Thanks,<br /> Alex</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19903</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:05:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19903</guid> <description>Getting back on topic. Alex, I wonder if you can give me some advice:I&#039;m writing my own database backup utility to addresses a couple of limitations with your utility (but I&#039;m not integrating it with WHS Console).Do you know how you can detect if WHS is backing up a client or running a backup cleanup so I don&#039;t shutdown the WHSBackup service whilst these operations are running.And secondly, your utility does more than just copying the files, it also creates a registry hive backup and an XML file. Can yopu explain to me how these are used in a restore as they don&#039;t seem to be covered by the MS white paper on WHS Backup.Many thanks. Paul</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back on topic. Alex, I wonder if you can give me some advice:</p><p>I&#8217;m writing my own database backup utility to addresses a couple of limitations with your utility (but I&#8217;m not integrating it with WHS Console).</p><p>Do you know how you can detect if WHS is backing up a client or running a backup cleanup so I don&#8217;t shutdown the WHSBackup service whilst these operations are running.</p><p>And secondly, your utility does more than just copying the files, it also creates a registry hive backup and an XML file. Can yopu explain to me how these are used in a restore as they don&#8217;t seem to be covered by the MS white paper on WHS Backup.</p><p>Many thanks.<br /> Paul</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19902</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19902</guid> <description>Sorry, justt checked my facts. Its $50 for 150GB or $150 for 500GB (per year) or you can p[ay monthly which is more expensive but as my music collection and fmaily photos and videos have been built over decaudes I think it&#039;&#039;s worth it for the insurance/assurance.Oh, BTW I have no connection with iDrive other than being a customer. I&#039;m in the UK, they are in the &#039;States.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, justt checked my facts. Its $50 for 150GB or $150 for 500GB (per year) or you can p[ay monthly which is more expensive but as my music collection and fmaily photos and videos have been built over decaudes I think it&#8221;s worth it for the insurance/assurance.</p><p>Oh, BTW I have no connection with iDrive other than being a customer. I&#8217;m in the UK, they are in the &#8216;States.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19901</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:50:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19901</guid> <description>Mel, you have the ability to retrieve old copes of files or folders from WHS shares by right clciking the file or folder and selecting the previous versions tab, but this may not go far enough for what you need. It&#039;s probably good enough if you realise you overwrote or deleted the wrong file but maybe no a couple of weeks later.I use iDrive on my server to backup my shares data online and encrypted (not practical for backup data as explained) which keeps the last 30 versions of my file (at no extra cost).The main problem is it doesn&#039;t integrate with the WHS console so has to be run from the server itself or a remote desktop connection. It costs abot $50 a year for 120GB which is the best deal I found and does continuous as well as daily backups (so a file gets backup as soon as it changes) and I have the peace of mind knowing that my data is safe even if my house and all my pcs are toast.. It did take a couple of weeks to make the first copy on my slow ADSL connection, although they do now offer the option of sending them a drive with your data on. I&#039;ve used it with no real problems for about 18 months now. I also backup to an external drive because I&#039;m paranoid.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel, you have the ability to retrieve old copes of files or folders from WHS shares by right clciking the file or folder and selecting the previous versions tab, but this may not go far enough for what you need. It&#8217;s probably good enough if you realise you overwrote or deleted the wrong file but maybe no a couple of weeks later.</p><p>I use iDrive on my server to backup my shares data online and encrypted (not practical for backup data as explained) which keeps the last 30 versions of my file (at no extra cost).</p><p>The main problem is it doesn&#8217;t integrate with the WHS console so has to be run from the server itself or a remote desktop connection. It costs abot $50 a year for 120GB which is the best deal I found and does continuous as well as daily backups (so a file gets backup as soon as it changes) and I have the peace of mind knowing that my data is safe even if my house and all my pcs are toast.. It did take a couple of weeks to make the first copy on my slow ADSL connection, although they do now offer the option of sending them a drive with your data on. I&#8217;ve used it with no real problems for about 18 months now. I also backup to an external drive because I&#8217;m paranoid.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Kuretz</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19900</link> <dc:creator>Alex Kuretz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19900</guid> <description>No, this Add-In is strictly for creating and restoring backups of the WHS Client Backup database.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, this Add-In is strictly for creating and restoring backups of the WHS Client Backup database.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mel</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19899</link> <dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:46:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19899</guid> <description>I&#039;m using the WHS as a small business server. We&#039;re all working off the server, as we don&#039;t want to have multiple files of each client on every computer... and then try to figure out who has the most recent file. So I am currently left to do a manual backup of the server every day so that in case we accidentally save over a file that we need, I can go back and grab it from a previous back up. I do have the files automatically duplicating, but again that doesn&#039;t help if we save over the wrong file.So my question is, can this automatically do the backups for the server (as the option is not available on whs and I have to do it manually)?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using the WHS as a small business server. We&#8217;re all working off the server, as we don&#8217;t want to have multiple files of each client on every computer&#8230; and then try to figure out who has the most recent file. So I am currently left to do a manual backup of the server every day so that in case we accidentally save over a file that we need, I can go back and grab it from a previous back up. I do have the files automatically duplicating, but again that doesn&#8217;t help if we save over the wrong file.</p><p>So my question is, can this automatically do the backups for the server (as the option is not available on whs and I have to do it manually)?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Kuretz</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19898</link> <dc:creator>Alex Kuretz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19898</guid> <description>I believe I addressed this in your homeservershow forum topic and never saw a response. http://homeservershow.com/forums/topic/whs-bdb-questionYou can also try experimenting with our recently discovered method of duplicating the system drive. Theoretically you should be able to store a backup of the C: partition, though I recommend keeping this up to date with latest patches, etc, and I also recommend against trying to restore a backup of the D: partition. We&#039;ve not tried this backup scenario, only the duplication scenario, so test at your own risk. http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/01/17/forum-spotlight-how-to-successfully-clone-and-upgrade-a-whs-system-drive/To directly answer your question, no, I do not plan to investigate the integration of some type of OS backup into BDBB.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I addressed this in your homeservershow forum topic and never saw a response.<br /> <a href="http://homeservershow.com/forums/topic/whs-bdb-question" rel="nofollow">http://homeservershow.com/forums/topic/whs-bdb-question</a></p><p>You can also try experimenting with our recently discovered method of duplicating the system drive. Theoretically you should be able to store a backup of the C: partition, though I recommend keeping this up to date with latest patches, etc, and I also recommend against trying to restore a backup of the D: partition. We&#8217;ve not tried this backup scenario, only the duplication scenario, so test at your own risk.<br /> <a href="http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/01/17/forum-spotlight-how-to-successfully-clone-and-upgrade-a-whs-system-drive/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/01/17/forum-spotlight-how-to-successfully-clone-and-upgrade-a-whs-system-drive/</a></p><p>To directly answer your question, no, I do not plan to investigate the integration of some type of OS backup into BDBB.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ImTheTypeOfGuy</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19897</link> <dc:creator>ImTheTypeOfGuy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:12:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19897</guid> <description>Is it possible to add functionality to backup the WHS sys drive? This is the biggest hole I currently see when it comes to backing up data.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to add functionality to backup the WHS sys drive? This is the biggest hole I currently see when it comes to backing up data.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dvn/Rich</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/09/25/whs-bdbb/comment-page-1/#comment-19896</link> <dc:creator>dvn/Rich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:28:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/hsplus/?p=137#comment-19896</guid> <description>I used BDBB to import backups from a frankenbuild to my new EX495. It worked perfectly! Good stuff, Alex.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used BDBB to import backups from a frankenbuild to my new EX495. It worked perfectly! Good stuff, Alex.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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