<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Bring Windows Home Server to Life In Microsoft&#8217;s New Retail Stores</title> <atom:link href="http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/</link> <description>The web&#039;s biggest home server and digital home community, with the latest news, reviews, hardware, software, add-ins and support forums.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:40:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Tom</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9694</link> <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9694</guid> <description>I&#039;d have to agree to what Mike say&#039;s about doing actual demonstartions of the products and how they can interact with other MS. products. Most people don&#039;t understand why a backup is needed or why a file server is needed. The best way to show them is actually have demonstrations of a WHS and then destroy a hard drive right in front of them and put in a new one and restore the computer! Also showing them the intergration of WHS to a Media center Computer would also be helpful but only if they also demonstrate the functions of a &quot;true&quot; media center computer. almost every one with Vista has Media Center but 90% of them don&#039;t know what it does or how to record tv to it, and how that would benifit them in conjunction with WHS. Also don&#039;t put a 17 year old &quot;thinks he knows it all&quot; Sales person at the display to do the demonstrations, but have an actual Microsoft certified Geek who knows the product inside and out do the demonstrations. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d have to agree to what Mike say&#039;s about doing actual demonstartions of the products and how they can interact with other MS. products. Most people don&#039;t understand why a backup is needed or why a file server is needed. The best way to show them is actually have demonstrations of a WHS and then destroy a hard drive right in front of them and put in a new one and restore the computer!</p><p>Also showing them the intergration of WHS to a Media center Computer would also be helpful but only if they also demonstrate the functions of a &quot;true&quot; media center computer. almost every one with Vista has Media Center but 90% of them don&#039;t know what it does or how to record tv to it, and how that would benifit them in conjunction with WHS.</p><p>Also don&#039;t put a 17 year old &quot;thinks he knows it all&quot; Sales person at the display to do the demonstrations, but have an actual Microsoft certified Geek who knows the product inside and out do the demonstrations.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: urmaster</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9675</link> <dc:creator>urmaster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:14:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9675</guid> <description>Again the fact that your on this site shows your are nowhere near the &quot;Average User&quot;. I was at my neighbours house just yesterday because he didn&#039;t know where to plug his scart cables (maybe if he had the manual he would have). The number of tech calls companies get for people who simply don&#039;t reset their modem when their internet stops or don&#039;t check caps lock on the keyboard when entering a password. Again the fact you found this site suggests you are nowhere near the demographic of &quot;Average User&quot;. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again the fact that your on this site shows your are nowhere near the &quot;Average User&quot;. I was at my neighbours house just yesterday because he didn&#039;t know where to plug his scart cables (maybe if he had the manual he would have). The number of tech calls companies get for people who simply don&#039;t reset their modem when their internet stops or don&#039;t check caps lock on the keyboard when entering a password. Again the fact you found this site suggests you are nowhere near the demographic of &quot;Average User&quot;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: unami99</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9669</link> <dc:creator>unami99</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9669</guid> <description>I think my HP ex485 was very easy to set up and a novice shouldn&#039;t have any trouble either.  All I had to do was plug the network cable into my router, install the Connection software on my PCs and everything else was done for me.  The ex485 automaticly adjusted the port forwarding of my router.  It was easy to set the backup schedule and simple to learn to transfer files to it and how to retrive the files.  It was also easy to stream to my xbox and over the internet.  I&#039;m pretty sure that covers everything that HP said it should do out of the box.  Of course I did add a lot of add-ins to my box and do a lot more with it than was advertised but I think the average user should have no problems with WHS in a prepackaged system like the media smart servers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my HP ex485 was very easy to set up and a novice shouldn&#8217;t have any trouble either.  All I had to do was plug the network cable into my router, install the Connection software on my PCs and everything else was done for me.  The ex485 automaticly adjusted the port forwarding of my router.  It was easy to set the backup schedule and simple to learn to transfer files to it and how to retrive the files.  It was also easy to stream to my xbox and over the internet.  I&#8217;m pretty sure that covers everything that HP said it should do out of the box.  Of course I did add a lot of add-ins to my box and do a lot more with it than was advertised but I think the average user should have no problems with WHS in a prepackaged system like the media smart servers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff Coupe</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9666</link> <dc:creator>Geoff Coupe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:46:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9666</guid> <description>Ah, yes - a brilliant spoof, with more than a grain of truth. Sometimes, less is more. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes &#8211; a brilliant spoof, with more than a grain of truth. Sometimes, less is more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christian Marx</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9665</link> <dc:creator>Christian Marx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:21:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9665</guid> <description>Well, &quot;what it says on the tin&quot; reminded me of this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0&lt;/a&gt; Funny, but also makes you think. There might be a general problem in how Microsoft tries to sell their stuff. That&#039;s especially true for the WHS. I would say, keep it as simple as possible. Focus on the main advantages. Don&#039;t be too technical. It can be a nice toy for savvy people, but you don&#039;t have to advertise it specifically to them, at least not in a retail store. If you want the average Joe to buy it, try the Apple way, make it sexy. Cheers CM </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &quot;what it says on the tin&quot; reminded me of this:<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXAcwriid0</a></p><p>Funny, but also makes you think. There might be a general problem in how Microsoft tries to sell their stuff. That&#039;s especially true for the WHS. I would say, keep it as simple as possible. Focus on the main advantages. Don&#039;t be too technical. It can be a nice toy for savvy people, but you don&#039;t have to advertise it specifically to them, at least not in a retail store. If you want the average Joe to buy it, try the Apple way, make it sexy.</p><p>Cheers<br /> CM</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RingaDing</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9662</link> <dc:creator>RingaDing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9662</guid> <description>Place a WHS (Microsoft Hub in the centre of the store. Pc&#039;s in the store should show &quot;your Windows Worrld, is backed upo on WHS. Have a media centre(HTPC) display area showing the funtions and services of  whs streamed from WHS Interlaced with film clips. Digital wirelessPhoto Frames flicking throught photos streamed From A WHS. A advertiement included at random. &quot;Your digital photos,  doubley safy with WHS duplication. Music Streamed. Etc Last lots of avertising boards having something like &quot;WHS/HUB saving and serving your digital life&quot; I could go on! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Place a WHS (Microsoft Hub in the centre of the store.<br /> Pc&#039;s in the store should show &quot;your Windows Worrld, is backed upo on WHS.</p><p>Have a media centre(HTPC) display area showing the funtions and services of  whs streamed from WHS Interlaced with film clips.<br /> Digital wirelessPhoto Frames flicking throught photos streamed From A WHS. A advertiement included at random. &quot;Your digital photos,  doubley safy with WHS duplication.<br /> Music Streamed.<br /> Etc<br /> Last lots of avertising boards having something like &quot;WHS/HUB saving and serving your digital life&quot;<br /> I could go on!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9658</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:40:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9658</guid> <description>I like to see the continuation of the &quot;Mommy, there is a home server in the house&quot; campaign.  For one, we need to have a person dressed up like a home server walking the isles of the new Microsoft retail stores.  Secondly, we need to showcase the power of storing one&#039;s precious photos in a safe spot ... sell the home server to the wifes/moms of the house hold.  The blockheaded husbands will want to get a home theatre PC first anyway ... and try to cram everything inside the HTPC.  Market to the wives!  Husband&#039;s will aquiesce when the wives thell them that the candy store is closed until they get a home server.  That&#039;s the other thing that irritates me, why the hell aren&#039;t PC makers putting out $400 HTPCs to accompany all the HD TVs that are in everyone&#039;s living rooms? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to see the continuation of the &quot;Mommy, there is a home server in the house&quot; campaign.  For one, we need to have a person dressed up like a home server walking the isles of the new Microsoft retail stores.  Secondly, we need to showcase the power of storing one&#039;s precious photos in a safe spot &#8230; sell the home server to the wifes/moms of the house hold.  The blockheaded husbands will want to get a home theatre PC first anyway &#8230; and try to cram everything inside the HTPC.  Market to the wives!  Husband&#039;s will aquiesce when the wives thell them that the candy store is closed until they get a home server.  That&#039;s the other thing that irritates me, why the hell aren&#039;t PC makers putting out $400 HTPCs to accompany all the HD TVs that are in everyone&#039;s living rooms?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: urmaster</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9649</link> <dc:creator>urmaster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:01:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9649</guid> <description>That would be the best way to demonstrate both it and the other products available at the same time.  A complete restore might be a bit time consuming however ^_- </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be the best way to demonstrate both it and the other products available at the same time.  A complete restore might be a bit time consuming however ^_-</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9648</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:30:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9648</guid> <description>First, got to an Apple store and see what works there. Second how do you show the benefits of WHS? I think that the ability to store all your photos in one place, the ability to see your photos on an XBOX, the ability to remotly access your computes, and the ability to recover a lost hard drive are the bigest benefits of WHS. So, in a store, they should set up multiple sections where there are WHS, Laptops, XBOXs, and TVs where all this can be demoed. It would be really interesting if they could come up with a five minute demo where you can create a video or picutre of yourself, wipe out the hard drive it is on and completly recover it. You just need enough places where people can do this. There should also be Windows experts who can answer peoples questions. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, got to an Apple store and see what works there.</p><p>Second how do you show the benefits of WHS? I think that the ability to store all your photos in one place, the ability to see your photos on an XBOX, the ability to remotly access your computes, and the ability to recover a lost hard drive are the bigest benefits of WHS.</p><p>So, in a store, they should set up multiple sections where there are WHS, Laptops, XBOXs, and TVs where all this can be demoed. It would be really interesting if they could come up with a five minute demo where you can create a video or picutre of yourself, wipe out the hard drive it is on and completly recover it. You just need enough places where people can do this.</p><p>There should also be Windows experts who can answer peoples questions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: urmaster</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9527</link> <dc:creator>urmaster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 05:12:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9527</guid> <description>Well I said without massive time investment not that it&#039;s impossible for it to tick it&#039;s own boxes. Maybe I should phase it as such: For pretty much all of the features advertised it will take some level of knowledge or time to setup to their maximum potential in the average environment. By that I mean the first line on the official WHS site : &quot;Everybody needs Windows Home Server&quot; is void by the fact that not everybody can setup a home server. Can you honestly say that it as easy to get a server ready as say an iPod or camera so that ANY able bodied person could use it in the way that such other mainstream devices can be used.  Part of the problem is that it relies on too many outside factors like a good gigabit network and broadband with a router, not to mention an ISP that won&#039;t block/throttle your ports (tell that to the average person and see the response) It doesn&#039;t even need to get to that level; can you put it at the same level of friendliness as even standard consumer Windows SKUs. The fact that the forums here are very active also proves that it isn&#039;t ready yet. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I said without massive time investment not that it&#39;s impossible for it to tick it&#39;s own boxes.<br /> Maybe I should phase it as such:</p><p>For pretty much all of the features advertised it will take some level of knowledge or time to setup to their maximum potential in the average environment.</p><p>By that I mean the first line on the official WHS site :<br /> &quot;Everybody needs Windows Home Server&quot; is void by the fact that not everybody can setup a home server. Can you honestly say that it as easy to get a server ready as say an iPod or camera so that ANY able bodied person could use it in the way that such other mainstream devices can be used.  Part of the problem is that it relies on too many outside factors like a good gigabit network and broadband with a router, not to mention an ISP that won&#39;t block/throttle your ports (tell that to the average person and see the response)</p><p>It doesn&#39;t even need to get to that level; can you put it at the same level of friendliness as even standard consumer Windows SKUs. The fact that the forums here are very active also proves that it isn&#39;t ready yet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: urmaster</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9526</link> <dc:creator>urmaster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:55:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9526</guid> <description>As I said I have no problems with WHS but that&#039;s me I&#039;m a programming student and pretty tech savy. At launch the Windows Home Server was for everybody and without a shadow of a doubt the average person would not get it working the way that it reads on the tin by just plugging it in. Most won&#039;t even know how to setup a secure network let alone basic admin on the console. It might not have come across in the post but believe it or not I love WHS and its the core of my network. But it is not mainstream ready yet and thus cannot be advertised as a mainstream device i.e &quot;just plug it in&quot; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said I have no problems with WHS but that&#39;s me I&#39;m a programming student and pretty tech savy. At launch the Windows Home Server was for everybody and without a shadow of a doubt the average person would not get it working the way that it reads on the tin by just plugging it in. Most won&#39;t even know how to setup a secure network let alone basic admin on the console.</p><p>It might not have come across in the post but believe it or not I love WHS and its the core of my network. But it is not mainstream ready yet and thus cannot be advertised as a mainstream device i.e &quot;just plug it in&quot;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: urmaster</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2009/08/06/bring-windows-home-server-to-life-in-microsofts-new-retail-stores/comment-page-1/#comment-9528</link> <dc:creator>urmaster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:09:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=12264#comment-9528</guid> <description>Yes this is pretty annoying but at least the WHS team themselves are aware of the other MS product teams, and that goes a long way. A nice example is how PP3 will work with HomeGroups and the integration with Media Centre. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes this is pretty annoying but at least the WHS team themselves are aware of the other MS product teams, and that goes a long way. A nice example is how PP3 will work with HomeGroups and the integration with Media Centre.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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