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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope that this isn&#039;t just an excuse for MS to screw more cash out of us!    I assume it will use the Windows 7  Server 2008 code base, and it would make sense to switch to 64-bit only.

I&#039;d like to see the &quot;standard&quot; version containing pretty much what WHS does today, perhaps with the inclusion of Live Mesh, and a couple of more network orientated features.   Some kind of enhanced Server-backup is also essential, the most secure would involve using a more capacious version of Live Mesh to provide continuous backup to the interweb.  For Anti-Trust reasons,  MS would probably have to partner with other companies to provide the storage for this.    Of course were this to be implemented it makes the current Remote Access parts of the system more or less redundant, as one&#039;s data is available via Mesh at all times....

The &quot;Premium&quot; version should obviously be a superset of the Standard, and will hopefully be designed to provide a &quot;One box&quot; Media Centre supporting multiple tuners etc, and enabled to  stream this content to one&#039;s devices around the home.  

I don&#039;t see this WHS in either guise  as an HTPC or PC  device, but as a true &quot;back-end&quot; server stashed somewhere well-ventilated, where there is ample space for a decent-sized box for cooling, expansion, upgrading etc.   For the Premium version, this will move the whole Media Centre\WHS game onto a more &quot;utility&quot; oriented level, where it operates more like plumbing - as part of the infrastructure of the home, rather than as a specific &quot;gadget&quot; as at present.

I&#039;m not 100% convinced that the &quot;extender&quot; is dead, though I was never convinced by the hugely expensive options that have been offered to date.  I suppose though that as more and more devices gain Ethernet\wireless connectivity as standard, discrete extenders become redundant.   I suppose that TV&#039;s etc will all contain sufficient processing horsepower to deal with the content streamed directly from WHS and other devices.  I could NEVER countenance an XBOX in my living-room - too noisy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope that this isn&#8217;t just an excuse for MS to screw more cash out of us!    I assume it will use the Windows 7  Server 2008 code base, and it would make sense to switch to 64-bit only.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the &#8220;standard&#8221; version containing pretty much what WHS does today, perhaps with the inclusion of Live Mesh, and a couple of more network orientated features.   Some kind of enhanced Server-backup is also essential, the most secure would involve using a more capacious version of Live Mesh to provide continuous backup to the interweb.  For Anti-Trust reasons,  MS would probably have to partner with other companies to provide the storage for this.    Of course were this to be implemented it makes the current Remote Access parts of the system more or less redundant, as one&#8217;s data is available via Mesh at all times&#8230;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Premium&#8221; version should obviously be a superset of the Standard, and will hopefully be designed to provide a &#8220;One box&#8221; Media Centre supporting multiple tuners etc, and enabled to  stream this content to one&#8217;s devices around the home.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see this WHS in either guise  as an HTPC or PC  device, but as a true &#8220;back-end&#8221; server stashed somewhere well-ventilated, where there is ample space for a decent-sized box for cooling, expansion, upgrading etc.   For the Premium version, this will move the whole Media Centre\WHS game onto a more &#8220;utility&#8221; oriented level, where it operates more like plumbing &#8211; as part of the infrastructure of the home, rather than as a specific &#8220;gadget&#8221; as at present.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not 100% convinced that the &#8220;extender&#8221; is dead, though I was never convinced by the hugely expensive options that have been offered to date.  I suppose though that as more and more devices gain Ethernet\wireless connectivity as standard, discrete extenders become redundant.   I suppose that TV&#8217;s etc will all contain sufficient processing horsepower to deal with the content streamed directly from WHS and other devices.  I could NEVER countenance an XBOX in my living-room &#8211; too noisy!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I take the x64 only comment back. That&#039;s silly. Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 share a common code base.  The only reason &quot;7&quot; Server is x64 only is because that is the direction of all Microsoft server products (Exchange, SharePoint, SQL) so a 32-bit version of Windows Server 2008 R2, while technically possible, has no place in the enterprise server market for Microsoft.

They could, however, use the x86 code base for WHS.  That said, just because there is an entry in this file does not mean there will be a product (e.g. x86.ServerDatacenterV - 32 bit Datacenter Edition with Hyper-V.... er, no, I don&#039;t think so).

I still think Vail will be x64 only irrespective of whether it would be technically possible to release it as x86.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I take the x64 only comment back. That&#8217;s silly. Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 share a common code base.  The only reason &#8220;7&#8243; Server is x64 only is because that is the direction of all Microsoft server products (Exchange, SharePoint, SQL) so a 32-bit version of Windows Server 2008 R2, while technically possible, has no place in the enterprise server market for Microsoft.</p>
<p>They could, however, use the x86 code base for WHS.  That said, just because there is an entry in this file does not mean there will be a product (e.g. x86.ServerDatacenterV &#8211; 32 bit Datacenter Edition with Hyper-V&#8230;. er, no, I don&#8217;t think so).</p>
<p>I still think Vail will be x64 only irrespective of whether it would be technically possible to release it as x86.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Vail is in development now then I doubt it will be based on Windows &quot;7&quot; Server (aka Windows Server 2008 R2).  With R2 server going through so many builds (internally) the platform would simply not be stable enough to build a code base for WHS from.  

If Vail is based on the current 2008 server code base then it could come in x86 and x64 variations. Given that WHS is primarily intended to be a OEM platform then I don&#039;t think Microsoft will have any problems telling them to put x64 machines together.  Driver support will be much tighter on the x64 platform (as it is today) and will greatly increase the stability of a tuner-enabled version that will live up to the reliability expectations we have from other commerical PVR products.  System builders like us will just have to move to x64 if necessary.  Apart from us, I don&#039;t think too many &quot;ordinary&quot; customers have gone the route of re-using old hardware.

I sincerely hope that the Premium edition is characterised as being a Windows Media Center enabled version.  That coupled with work we&#039;ve seen prototyped around Live Mesh and maybe even Internet streaming (i.e. Web Guide) would potentially offer a good opportunity to market WHS as both a backup and/or media solution according to the version you buy for your OEM WHS.  I think this offering will bring new players to the WHS market (Dell XPS WHS? or even Sony to convert their hockey-puck to be a WHS).

I really can&#039;t seen any justification for a Premium version of WHS unless it takes the level of functionality (&amp; price) up a notch.  Mind you, I thought that about Vista Ultimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Vail is in development now then I doubt it will be based on Windows &#8220;7&#8243; Server (aka Windows Server 2008 R2).  With R2 server going through so many builds (internally) the platform would simply not be stable enough to build a code base for WHS from.  </p>
<p>If Vail is based on the current 2008 server code base then it could come in x86 and x64 variations. Given that WHS is primarily intended to be a OEM platform then I don&#8217;t think Microsoft will have any problems telling them to put x64 machines together.  Driver support will be much tighter on the x64 platform (as it is today) and will greatly increase the stability of a tuner-enabled version that will live up to the reliability expectations we have from other commerical PVR products.  System builders like us will just have to move to x64 if necessary.  Apart from us, I don&#8217;t think too many &#8220;ordinary&#8221; customers have gone the route of re-using old hardware.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that the Premium edition is characterised as being a Windows Media Center enabled version.  That coupled with work we&#8217;ve seen prototyped around Live Mesh and maybe even Internet streaming (i.e. Web Guide) would potentially offer a good opportunity to market WHS as both a backup and/or media solution according to the version you buy for your OEM WHS.  I think this offering will bring new players to the WHS market (Dell XPS WHS? or even Sony to convert their hockey-puck to be a WHS).</p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t seen any justification for a Premium version of WHS unless it takes the level of functionality (&amp; price) up a notch.  Mind you, I thought that about Vista Ultimate.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the lesson of MSFT History, Standard will be a useless POS and Premium will be overpriced.  Continuing this caste system is going to kill W7 and Vail.  Hopefully, the US DOJ and the EU will finally bust MSFT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the lesson of MSFT History, Standard will be a useless POS and Premium will be overpriced.  Continuing this caste system is going to kill W7 and Vail.  Hopefully, the US DOJ and the EU will finally bust MSFT</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing a Premium version that comes pre-packaged with Sharepoint and Exchange for home use. </description>
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		<title>By: zeeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a big fan of different versions of OS:s (Apple FTW!) because it always feels like you are missing out if you go for the more basic one. That said, I can see where it can make sense for WHS. The thing is that I think that the premium one, if it exists, will be the equivalent to the version we see today. The basic one will most likely have restrictions instead. I&#039;m thinking a limited number of computors that can be backed up, no *.homeserver.com registration, limited transcoding or a restriction on the homegroup size and things along those lines. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not a big fan of different versions of OS:s (Apple FTW!) because it always feels like you are missing out if you go for the more basic one. That said, I can see where it can make sense for WHS. The thing is that I think that the premium one, if it exists, will be the equivalent to the version we see today. The basic one will most likely have restrictions instead. I&#039;m thinking a limited number of computors that can be backed up, no *.homeserver.com registration, limited transcoding or a restriction on the homegroup size and things along those lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Imran Hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imran Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm 2 SKUs for Windows Home Server too? Please no! Any house hold who uses Home Server already is advanced/ has advanced users enough! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm 2 SKUs for Windows Home Server too? Please no! Any house hold who uses Home Server already is advanced/ has advanced users enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Kommt WHS2 (Vail) als Premium und Standard Version ?! - Deutschsprachiger Microsoft Media Center BLOG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kommt WHS2 (Vail) als Premium und Standard Version ?! - Deutschsprachiger Microsoft Media Center BLOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dem WeGotServed Blog und dem Home-Server-Blog.de sind neue Gerüchte zur Windows Home Server Version 2 (Codename: Vail) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dem WeGotServed Blog und dem Home-Server-Blog.de sind neue Gerüchte zur Windows Home Server Version 2 (Codename: Vail) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 14:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 14:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope they offer an upgrade to the new OS through the HP Models.  I think as a community, if we communicate to HP that we want this, it may happen.

I think a huge enchancement will be adding the Windows 7 MC/WMP into the server software itself.  If they do this, so many possibilities!  I can think of one off the top, which would be the &quot;play to&quot; function where you could use the console to control each Win 7 HTPC without having to use 3rd party software.

I&#039;m looking forward to this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope they offer an upgrade to the new OS through the HP Models.  I think as a community, if we communicate to HP that we want this, it may happen.</p>
<p>I think a huge enchancement will be adding the Windows 7 MC/WMP into the server software itself.  If they do this, so many possibilities!  I can think of one off the top, which would be the &quot;play to&quot; function where you could use the console to control each Win 7 HTPC without having to use 3rd party software.</p>
<p>I&#039;m looking forward to this!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt very much that the podcast you refer to will mention Vail - it&#039;s focused on small business opportunities with the current Windows Home Server PP2 edition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt very much that the podcast you refer to will mention Vail &#8211; it&#039;s focused on small business opportunities with the current Windows Home Server PP2 edition.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the difference between the two will be tuner support.
Ben Drawbaugh said on the last Engadged HD podcast, an &#039;insider&#039; confirmed to him that there will be tuner support in Vail. he also wrote a very interesting article on this last week.

the standard version will probably be the same as now, but more evolved and with some new features.

i hope we&#039;ll know soon enough, there is that MS podcast on friday, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the difference between the two will be tuner support.<br />
Ben Drawbaugh said on the last Engadged HD podcast, an &#039;insider&#039; confirmed to him that there will be tuner support in Vail. he also wrote a very interesting article on this last week.</p>
<p>the standard version will probably be the same as now, but more evolved and with some new features.</p>
<p>i hope we&#039;ll know soon enough, there is that MS podcast on friday, no?</p>
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