<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: What If: There Were Two Versions of Windows Home Server?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/</link> <description>The web&#039;s biggest home server and digital home community, with the latest news, reviews, hardware, software, add-ins and support forums.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:40:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Limewire Alternative</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-47122</link> <dc:creator>Limewire Alternative</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:08:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-47122</guid> <description>Checking around for the best &lt;a href=&quot;http://limewirealternative.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Best Limewire Alternatives&lt;/a&gt; and found a great site for them and your site looked like your readers might value it so I&#039;ve linked to it here! Check it out! - All the best </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checking around for the best <a href="http://limewirealternative.org/" rel="nofollow">Best Limewire Alternatives</a> and found a great site for them and your site looked like your readers might value it so I&#039;ve linked to it here!</p><p>Check it out!</p><p>- All the best</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike de Groot</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-12718</link> <dc:creator>Mike de Groot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:37:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-12718</guid> <description>I have used whs 5 months and i must say dat i really mis the RAID options &amp; they must bring out a Windows Home Server Pro Edition. I&#039;m nou running a QNAP 419P because whs didnt had raid. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used whs 5 months and i must say dat i really mis the RAID options &amp; they must bring out a Windows Home Server Pro Edition. I&#039;m nou running a QNAP 419P because whs didnt had raid.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob Obvious</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-10074</link> <dc:creator>Bob Obvious</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-10074</guid> <description>Why not have ONE version with all the advanced features?Can&#039;t Microsoft learn anything from Apple?  One flavour for all is a much better measure.  Think about it.  More features on &quot;Windows Home Server&quot;, it gets buzz as a positive thing, people are excited about it, more positivity.More SKUs = more confusion.  Does anyone out there REALLY know the differnce between the different Vista flavours?  Answer: YES, some IT specialists.  Most people are confused tho.KISS = Keep it simple, stupid.  One awesome sku please.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not have ONE version with all the advanced features?</p><p>Can&#8217;t Microsoft learn anything from Apple?  One flavour for all is a much better measure.  Think about it.  More features on &#8220;Windows Home Server&#8221;, it gets buzz as a positive thing, people are excited about it, more positivity.</p><p>More SKUs = more confusion.  Does anyone out there REALLY know the differnce between the different Vista flavours?  Answer: YES, some IT specialists.  Most people are confused tho.</p><p>KISS = Keep it simple, stupid.  One awesome sku please.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Future Windows Home Server Standard and Premium Editions (Seemingly) Confirmed &#124; We Got Served - Windows Home Server &#38; Your Digital Home</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-7079</link> <dc:creator>Future Windows Home Server Standard and Premium Editions (Seemingly) Confirmed &#124; We Got Served - Windows Home Server &#38; Your Digital Home</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:34:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-7079</guid> <description>[...] planned. This backs up a post made by the Windows Home Server Team last year on their blog (see our coverage and reader comments on the [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] planned. This backs up a post made by the Windows Home Server Team last year on their blog (see our coverage and reader comments on the [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Future Windows Home Server Standard and Premium Editions (Seemingly) Confirmed&#160;&#124;&#160;We Got Served</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3732</link> <dc:creator>Future Windows Home Server Standard and Premium Editions (Seemingly) Confirmed&#160;&#124;&#160;We Got Served</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 11:22:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3732</guid> <description>[...] planned. This backs up a post made by the Windows Home Server Team last year on their blog (see our coverage and reader comments on the [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] planned. This backs up a post made by the Windows Home Server Team last year on their blog (see our coverage and reader comments on the [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zarlon</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3733</link> <dc:creator>Zarlon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:07:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3733</guid> <description>I agree with everybody and with nobody.   It is a Home server that is hamstrung at the moment.  We need add-in&#039;s that are simply to install and just work.  One person said that the add-in&#039;s were being written for HP boxes, people this is windows, it should have all the drivers for all of the hardware (be nice wouldn&#039;t it).  Now MS needs to have a simple installer that can take the add-in&#039;s and make them work.  This way everybody gets what they want and we keep the KISS principle.  Look at Firefox, the add-in&#039;s for WHS should be as simple as add-in&#039;s for Firefox.  The people in this forum have a lot of knowledge, know how and great ideas.  We should be able to take WHS and make it what we want it to be, a server for everyone and every home or small business.  If you don&#039;t want a feature, don&#039;t install the add-in.  On the opposite side of this add-in&#039;s should also be simple to uninstall when you no longer want them.Well enough of my rant</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everybody and with nobody.   It is a Home server that is hamstrung at the moment.  We need add-in&#039;s that are simply to install and just work.  One person said that the add-in&#039;s were being written for HP boxes, people this is windows, it should have all the drivers for all of the hardware (be nice wouldn&#039;t it).  Now MS needs to have a simple installer that can take the add-in&#039;s and make them work.  This way everybody gets what they want and we keep the KISS principle.  Look at Firefox, the add-in&#039;s for WHS should be as simple as add-in&#039;s for Firefox.  The people in this forum have a lot of knowledge, know how and great ideas.  We should be able to take WHS and make it what we want it to be, a server for everyone and every home or small business.  If you don&#039;t want a feature, don&#039;t install the add-in.  On the opposite side of this add-in&#039;s should also be simple to uninstall when you no longer want them.</p><p>Well enough of my rant</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fred</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3731</link> <dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3731</guid> <description>The feature I want to see implemented the most in WHS and for wich I would pay extra is a software raid similar to UnRaid from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lime-technology.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.lime-technology.com/&lt;/a&gt; .  That would be simply awesome to have software parity integrating flexible disk management.  I wouldn&#039;t mind the performance loss compared with RAID5 since the thing is serving datas through LAN.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feature I want to see implemented the most in WHS and for wich I would pay extra is a software raid similar to UnRaid from <a href="http://www.lime-technology.com/" target="_blank">http://www.lime-technology.com/</a> .  That would be simply awesome to have software parity integrating flexible disk management.  I wouldn&#039;t mind the performance loss compared with RAID5 since the thing is serving datas through LAN.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Martyn Greville-Giddings</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3728</link> <dc:creator>Martyn Greville-Giddings</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:39:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3728</guid> <description>@TomIt would be lovely if Microsoft was able to provide everything you&#039;ve asked for but on the one hand you want it to be simple and on the other you want email, and a webserver ontop of media streaming and simple backup.My first point would be that configuring a domain name registered with any one of thousands of companies on the web pointing correct cnames and the MX records at the server or preferably mx backup server incase the family broadband goes down... you get my drift.Second if you want a webserver and probably ftp for the extended family to upload stuff to you need a hardware firewall infront of it or it&#039;s going to get hacked to death along with all your precious photo&#039;s...Your all in one box will always be over complex.  I would love to see the next WHS able to backup my parents computers over the internet, confirm all their windows updates have been installed and if possible rebuild the PC from PXE boot with little configuration (WDS already provides this but can&#039;t be run without AD and the Repair CD is already a fully customised WinPE 2 cd)After that lets add an add-in that allows SoHo&#039;s access to DHCP and DNS settings (these would be needed for PXE boot which is why the current CD restore system exists to keep it simple)Printer&#039;s, scanners and other devices on a second add-in (already happening in windows 7)For eMail and web I&#039;d say hotmail/office live mail but no doubt microsoft would get sued for anti-trust again on that score, gmail google apps is great too but really to make email simple it has to be hosted and with the providers creating add-ins.  There are already loads of great hosts doing things with simple websites and with a little more knowledge and a cheep template CMS is getting good.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom</p><p>It would be lovely if Microsoft was able to provide everything you&#8217;ve asked for but on the one hand you want it to be simple and on the other you want email, and a webserver ontop of media streaming and simple backup.</p><p>My first point would be that configuring a domain name registered with any one of thousands of companies on the web pointing correct cnames and the MX records at the server or preferably mx backup server incase the family broadband goes down&#8230; you get my drift.</p><p>Second if you want a webserver and probably ftp for the extended family to upload stuff to you need a hardware firewall infront of it or it&#8217;s going to get hacked to death along with all your precious photo&#8217;s&#8230;</p><p>Your all in one box will always be over complex.  I would love to see the next WHS able to backup my parents computers over the internet, confirm all their windows updates have been installed and if possible rebuild the PC from PXE boot with little configuration (WDS already provides this but can&#8217;t be run without AD and the Repair CD is already a fully customised WinPE 2 cd)</p><p>After that lets add an add-in that allows SoHo&#8217;s access to DHCP and DNS settings (these would be needed for PXE boot which is why the current CD restore system exists to keep it simple)</p><p>Printer&#8217;s, scanners and other devices on a second add-in (already happening in windows 7)</p><p>For eMail and web I&#8217;d say hotmail/office live mail but no doubt microsoft would get sued for anti-trust again on that score, gmail google apps is great too but really to make email simple it has to be hosted and with the providers creating add-ins.  There are already loads of great hosts doing things with simple websites and with a little more knowledge and a cheep template CMS is getting good.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3719</link> <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3719</guid> <description>PART 2 Today with all respect it is too &quot;techni&quot; conncetor software and all. Microsoft has a tremendous opportunity to shape the connceted home but it lacks to true consumer angle coming from the world of business computing.So WHS 2.0 and its underlying hardware is in effect and easy thing to envision. Ihope they go for it now that they have proven that there is a segment in the market.Note: Family and very small business is the same segment so do not bother to make a distinction between them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PART 2<br /> Today with all respect it is too &#8220;techni&#8221; conncetor software and all.<br /> Microsoft has a tremendous opportunity to shape the connceted home but it lacks to true consumer angle coming from the world of business computing.</p><p>So WHS 2.0 and its underlying hardware is in effect and easy thing to envision. Ihope they go for it now that they have proven that there is a segment in the market.</p><p>Note: Family and very small business is the same segment so do not bother to make a distinction between them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3720</link> <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:19:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3720</guid> <description>I do not know if Microsoft is listening but I hope they do I read the many interesting and valuable comments. And the point I would like to make is that WHS is all about the connected home. If it isn&#039;t it should be. The connected home means the connected family (including the extended family) The family has 2 main issues when it comes to be connected (access to) 1 entertaiment, 2 communications That said it becomes easy to envision the WHS1 it needs access to external media, (internet, off-air TV and radio) (perhaps a usb stick receiver) 2 it should provide storage and streaming media for the home 3 it should provide email for the whole family 4 it should provide connectivity for all media devices at home 5 it should provide a website for the family to present itself to the outsideNow it is up to Microsoft to provide in such a way that a least one person in the family can set up (user friendly) and that it seamlessly integrates with the PCs and other devices in the home (not the case now)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know if Microsoft is listening but I hope they do<br /> I read the many interesting and valuable comments.<br /> And the point I would like to make is that WHS is all about the connected home. If it isn&#8217;t it should be. The connected home means the connected family (including the extended family)<br /> The family has 2 main issues when it comes to be connected (access to)<br /> 1 entertaiment, 2 communications<br /> That said it becomes easy to envision the WHS</p><p>1 it needs access to external media, (internet, off-air TV and radio)<br /> (perhaps a usb stick receiver)<br /> 2 it should provide storage and streaming media for the home<br /> 3 it should provide email for the whole family<br /> 4 it should provide connectivity for all media devices at home<br /> 5 it should provide a website for the family to present itself to the outside</p><p>Now it is up to Microsoft to provide in such a way that a least one person in the family can set up (user friendly)<br /> and that it seamlessly integrates with the PCs and other devices in the home (not the case now)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3726</link> <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:32:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3726</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-13100&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Trent&lt;/a&gt; -Most of what you ask for can be done free with Sharepoint services, remember that there are many options already for advanced users who rdp or direct login to the server in instead of using the WHS Console. Sharepoint has almost all the features and more, shared calendars, events and with plugins and addins for that, well the sky is the limit. Also for all those who desperately want a mail server on their WHS, try SmarterMail - http://www.smartertools.comIt runs just fine on WHS, offers web access and it a nice little package.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-13100' rel="nofollow">@Trent</a> -</p><p>Most of what you ask for can be done free with Sharepoint services, remember that there are many options already for advanced users who rdp or direct login to the server in instead of using the WHS Console. Sharepoint has almost all the features and more, shared calendars, events and with plugins and addins for that, well the sky is the limit. Also for all those who desperately want a mail server on their WHS, try SmarterMail &#8211; <a href="http://www.smartertools.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.smartertools.com</a></p><p>It runs just fine on WHS, offers web access and it a nice little package.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sr</title><link>http://www.wegotserved.com/2008/09/05/what-if-there-were-two-versions-of-windows-home-server/comment-page-2/#comment-3704</link> <dc:creator>sr</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.wegotserved.com/?p=3278#comment-3704</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-11033&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@dman1092&lt;/a&gt; - totally agree. While it is by far the closest to a Microsoft OS/product I can safely leave in the care of my parents, it still isn&#039;t quite there.I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about computers/networks etc., but sometimes this product confuses me.It really needs to be made bulletproof. Everything up to and including restoring the server must be made easy enough and harmless enough that anyone regardless of technical knowledge can perform.That means the backup database must be duplicated in the OS. I use BDBB to do that, but it should be built in.Recovery must be made simple. You should be able to backup the server OS using PC backup. You should then be able to restore the server at any time by initiating it in the console. The machine could reboot and automatically boot into a mini OS that allows you to restore the server itself from any backups held in the pooled storage of the system. You should similarly have the first backup or image of the machine in factory fresh state (or clean install state) so that you can use it to restore to factory fresh state.Yes the device should be simple enough that it knows to either accept an IP from the router or assign itself one automatically. It should come with a regularly updated set of scripts for popular routers that automatically changes the required port forwarding settings for the user. Sure it&#039;s a lot of work, but that&#039;s what needs to be done in order for it be as friendly as it needs to be to take off.I mean it needs to be as simple as &quot;Your router (picture of router) cannot &quot;find me&quot;(click to read actual technical explanation). Can I attempt to automatically change your router settings so that it can? (again click on the underlined word &quot;change&quot; to read the full technical explanation of what it is going to do).&quot;That is the level it needs to communicate with users. Simple explanations for most people and underlined words to let technical types read the full issue. That way we can feel in control while most people can also feel in control of their server.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-11033' rel="nofollow">@dman1092</a> &#8211; totally agree. While it is by far the closest to a Microsoft OS/product I can safely leave in the care of my parents, it still isn&#8217;t quite there.</p><p>I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about computers/networks etc., but sometimes this product confuses me.</p><p>It really needs to be made bulletproof. Everything up to and including restoring the server must be made easy enough and harmless enough that anyone regardless of technical knowledge can perform.</p><p>That means the backup database must be duplicated in the OS. I use BDBB to do that, but it should be built in.</p><p>Recovery must be made simple. You should be able to backup the server OS using PC backup. You should then be able to restore the server at any time by initiating it in the console. The machine could reboot and automatically boot into a mini OS that allows you to restore the server itself from any backups held in the pooled storage of the system. You should similarly have the first backup or image of the machine in factory fresh state (or clean install state) so that you can use it to restore to factory fresh state.</p><p>Yes the device should be simple enough that it knows to either accept an IP from the router or assign itself one automatically. It should come with a regularly updated set of scripts for popular routers that automatically changes the required port forwarding settings for the user. Sure it&#8217;s a lot of work, but that&#8217;s what needs to be done in order for it be as friendly as it needs to be to take off.</p><p>I mean it needs to be as simple as &#8220;Your router (picture of router) cannot &#8220;find me&#8221;(click to read actual technical explanation). Can I attempt to automatically change your router settings so that it can? (again click on the underlined word &#8220;change&#8221; to read the full technical explanation of what it is going to do).&#8221;</p><p>That is the level it needs to communicate with users. Simple explanations for most people and underlined words to let technical types read the full issue. That way we can feel in control while most people can also feel in control of their server.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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