MC and WHS Integrated!

Windows Media Center and Windows Home Server – Better Together

Windows Home Server is a new product venturing into unexplored territory. It has had its growing pains in the form of the famous Data Corruption bug and lack of an x64 Connector. It is a product that, if designed and marketed correctly, has huge growth potential. One of the most glaring features missing from a product that promotes itself as a central repository of digital data is the ability to easily serve all the home entertainment devices in the home.

That feature is Windows Media Center. It has been around for a few years, it is a relatively mature product, and there are users all over the world who have built Home Theater PC’s with (and some without) Media Center to:

  • Watch TV
  • Record TV
  • Play DVDs
  • Play VCDs
  • Play MP3s
  • Play CDs
  • View pictures
  • And more

Users have built these PC’s to act as a dedicated central repository for all their media and then have the ability to stream this data to wherever they want to in their home. To another PC, to their TV, to their Xbox, or to their sound system.

In my home, I have a WHS where I make use of the most of the features of WHS. I also have a Vista machine which includes Windows Media Center. I use my PC to watch DVD’s and listen to my music that is stored on my WHS. I currently use my PC to watch TV, either live or recorded, on that PC. But that is just on my PC. Streaming to my TV? Yea, right.

I would really like to be able to open a version of Media Center on my Windows Home Server from any device I have attached to it, whether directly or through an extender and watch TV, play a DVD, or listen to music.

It is interesting to note the feature lists of these 2 products. Direct from Microsoft’s website is a list of the features of WHS which follows.

  • Digital memories and media stored and organized in a central location
  • Home computers backed up daily, automatically
  • Simple restore of lost files or even entire hard drive contents
  • Complete access to files from both inside and outside the home
  • A secure and personalized website address for sharing photos and home videos
  • Easily add storage space and new software capabilities

Now compare these features with some of Windows Media Center features.

  • Schedule show time on your own time
  • Big, beautiful photos and videos
  • Make any room a media room
  • Music that’s easy to find and play
  • Diverse online entertainment

It is easy to see MC would appear to be a natural extension of WHS, or perhaps the other way around! Unfortunately, Microsoft has a habit of producing software that is quite often redundant and fails to integrate easily with other Microsoft software. Such is the case of WHS and MC. There are always a number of very talented people in this world who attempt to bridge these integration problems. Sometimes well and sometimes not. This can be fine for those willing to tediously search for a solution to their particular need. This is not so fine for those who simply want to open the “box”, plug it in, and have it all work right now. For example, you plug the cable into your TV, turn it on, and you can now watch zillions of channels. Not quite so simple if one has a Media Center or WHS computer.

There is another problem for the connected home user who wants to integrate the features of WHS and MC and share it throughout the home. You need 2 computers. I’ll let you try and convince my wife of the need for another computer. Also, in a world where energy is becoming a very precious commodity, businesses have begun to use Virtual Servers to eliminate hardware. One computer does it all: file server, backup server, exchange server, etc. using virtualization. Just the idea, however, of setting up such an environment to have just WHS and MC in a virtualized environment would make most normal user’s eyes glaze over dramatically.

It is not as if Microsoft is unaware of this integration need. Over at The Green Button is a thread that was started almost a year ago by a Microsoft employee discussing integration. Lots of talk and no action. I realize that the growing pains of WHS has slowed down development of other WHS features, but it is about time that that Microsoft gives this integration feature a kick in the pants and start the process.

What do you think?

Breaking news!

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2 of our more avid fans here on WGS (GaMeR and Drashna) have found a way to integrate MC 2005 into WHS!  Check out this thread at WGS.  Hopefully, their hard work will pay off!  Bookmark it now and see how the development progresses.  I will be very curious to see what kind of response will come Microsoft on this, if any.


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About Jim Clark

Hello. I’m from the heartland of the U.S. Lots of corn and beans, although Iowa is a lot more than just farmland. It also has a few computer enthusiasts (no, not me!). I’ve been around PCs since I got my 1st PC XT aloooong time ago. WGS is one of the first sites I found centered around WHS. And the best. Every once in awhile, I do get away from the KB and enjoy time with and my wife and our 4 kids. And I do have a day job.

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  • Andrew Carr

    I agree with everything you say, the pieces of the jigsaw that, when finished, will allow complete intergration of all MS media products, but especially MC and WHS to seamlessly work together is not yet here.

    There are too many hoops for the average user to jump through to make all part of the “out of box” experience work. Come on MS lets have some joined up thinking and look at your product range as a whole entity needing easily configured inter-connectivity.

  • vansmack

    This is a no brainer and I’m surprised MS even thought of releasing WHS without at least Media Center extensions. You tried to make the easiest storage server possible (and arguably you did), why not equip it with the easiest media organizer for your home theater system? Two steps forward one step back, when it very easily could have been two giant steps forward.

  • outofcoffee

    omg omg omg omg I want I want.

    Childishness over. But seriously, what, 80% of WHS owners want this. Every discussion, forum, Connect programme, everything people have told Microsoft to do this.

    What the hell’s stopping them? And where the hell’s softsled?!?

  • judgeschambers

    As much as I love MS products and WHS, there are very easy ways to get home vids, pics and music to your TV without running ANY software on WHS and taxing it further…or running MC…or two pc’s…or extenders!

    All you have to do is run a networked device like Mvix USA, Mediagate or the…ahh, hem,…XBMC for your first gen Xbox. All play DVD TS, ISO, Xvid, Dvix, mp3, jpeg files. All devices run independently on your wired or wireless network.

    Now, If MS would make something like these devices….bringing your media to your TVs would be super easy. If you have WHS, then get any of the above mentioned devices for each TV in the house. If you already have MC, do the same. So easy and pretty cheap compared to running two PCs and the time to manage them.

    Check mine and a few other’s posts here at the WHS Forums. Also, see what device I use to get all my media to three TV’s and stereos in my home:
    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2615180&SiteID=50

  • judgeschambers

    Oh, BTW. I’d try the WHS integration with MC if it worked well. Can’t wait to see/try it out too. ;-)

  • Jim Clark

    For those who want to use WHS as a media library for Media Center, you should be seeing some instructions on how to do just that soon. It won’t be Media Center on WHS, but it will the next best thing to it.

  • Jason

    Can anyone tell me if WHS has the ability to edit library metadata for media being shared to media extenders on the home network (PS3, Xbox, etc)?

    Currently I find that when sharing my media from a Vista PC there is no provision for editing meta data for my videos. For example I would like to take my home movies and edit the movie name, “series name”, etc. Is there a way with WHS to make this happen?

  • Jim Clark

    Perhaps using xml files, which is how MC gets DVD data: take a look at http://www.dvdxml.com/news.php

  • vansmack

    Sure, there are ways for techies to do it. But if this is ever going to take off for the general public it has to be simple to use and simple to impliment, and they’re half way there with the implementation of WHS. Something like an Xbox 360 with Media Center Extentions hooked up to a media center pc is about as easy as it gets to make it simple to use – why not do that with the Home Server out of the box?

    Using Media Connector 2.0 like the WHS does, means I have to go to the “T”s on my 360 to play “The Beatles” – what year is it that “The” can’t be stipped from the Db? That’s a simple example – file types support is a much longer discussion that I’d rather not have (again).

  • Jason

    I agree. MS seems perplexed about why Apple is doing so much better in the home connectivity area, but it’s exactly for reasons like this. The Media Services part of Windows needs to be brought up to date. It’s 2008 and we shouldn’t be saddled with outdated and primitive metadata restraints that can’t do something as simple as stripping “the” from the prefix name of an artist, or being able to edit the metadata for a video. It wouldn’t surprise me at all of MS is kowtowing to the RIAA on things like this as it’s already been shown that laptop manufacturers have bowed to RIAA pressure and removed stereo muxing capabilities from many newer laptops specifically to make the RIAA happy.

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